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and good afternoon from Philadelphia

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Frank here with another episode of UFO

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news network Sunday today on a Tuesday

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afternoon we've got a very special guest

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lined up and let me bring in my co-host

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Jan Hannah to do a to introduce him oh

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hi Frank thank you very much for the

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introduction we have a very special

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guest on the show today he is a highly

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respected journalist a political

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journalist based in Washington DC has a

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BA in more studies a master's of science

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and Middle East politics and a graduate

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diploma in law from the College of Law

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and London in 2017 he joined the

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Washington Examiner as a commentary

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writer on January 8 2018 the McLaughlin

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group relaunch with Rogen as moderator

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his website Tom Rogan thanks calm and

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the McLaughlin group McLaughlin comm Tom

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on September 27th you said forthcoming

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new evidence will further suggest that

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unidentified aerial phenomena as

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recorded by the US Navy and others is

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intelligent operated machinery not of

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this earth and you're standing by that

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wanted to go ahead and just jump right

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in in your article which was published

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today the real reasons the US government

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is so secretive about UFOs you said

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where does this leave us

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with the need to keep pushing this issue

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but also with confidence it will take

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time

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but we'll get to the truth eventually my

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question to you is what is the truth to

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you what does it encompass and the other

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question is do you think the UN will

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pass any resolutions on the UAP topic

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well that's very good to be with you I

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think the truth is that these aircraft

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at least some of them and not simply in

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the instance that are being approximate

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to the US Navy's Carrier Strike groups

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and nuclear platforms are in some cases

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from

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somewhere in the galaxy there is

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obviously being consideration as to

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whether some of these are from alternate

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dimensions etc but I think at least in

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some of the cases we're going to find

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out that they are from from other world

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so that that is my understanding or not

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I think there's a lot that is recording

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prep you to listen to it record your

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message there we go

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Tom yeah you still with yeah I had the

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the other phone that we were using I

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guess that was taking a very lengthy

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message sorry about that I didn't

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disconnect that call okay yeah we're

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good to go but that Tom really quick

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what aroused your interest in this

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subject not a lot of folks in the

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Washington press corps are really

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digging in on it and you made a pretty

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bold statement there at the end of

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September in the predictions section of

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the McLaughlin group what grabbed your

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attention about it but I think original

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New York Times story had something to do

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with this phenomena whatever that might

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be

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interest and then in terms of talking to

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various sources performer and having to

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the understanding that you know they do

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not believe that the consensus thing is

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that this is not stuff this unity

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phenomena whatever you want to call it

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or Chinese and the possibilities and

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performance that we especially in terms

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of the maybe footage and the testimony

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there gives you a range of data points

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professional eyewitness analysis

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certainly from someone in my position

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who tends to really be doing more from

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that I've just that have gone on with it

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and the the sources that that you're

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getting this information from are they

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Pentagon sources who are you talking to

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about this because the sensitive it's

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obviously very sensitive I remember is

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saying government US government persons

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in a in the in the field of

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international supremacy envelope that's

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about as far as I want to go with that

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but people who were your listeners and

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and integrity as to whether they can

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tell you the truth or not but I am

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Telling the sometimes quite the

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credibility of the okay Tom

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China and Russia will never release

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files they have on the UFO topic do you

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think that statement is true and just

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going along those lines do you think

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Putin has more knowledge on the UFO

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topic than he's admitting so again

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China and Russia will never release

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files they have related to the UFO topic

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he's admitting well I think because

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those resumes is such that they see

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themselves in a and great power dragon

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and they would not want to in the same

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way that I know that the United States

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would not want to they would not want to

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for indications for cross replication

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research that the the US is doing I

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didn't want help us figure out how to

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make some of this stuff work and in

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terms of Vladimir Putin's knowledge yeah

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I I you know there is been a lot of talk

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of animals and you know louie-louie

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from certainly some people meant

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document in terms of the way my Russian

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military industrial complex operates and

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the intelligence services they don't go

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or anything that they think and you know

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know that in intensity he is someone who

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looks I don't think he would commit some

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of the predicates that perhaps in other

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government okay and Tom just won't let

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you know you're breaking up a lot and

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you're also coming through a little

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muffled so if you feel like you're in

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control of that that would be great

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the next question I have for you which

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is sort of indirectly related to what I

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was talking about when I asked you the

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question I just did is China built the

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world's largest telescope they're very

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secretive as you know China is if they

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received any info from any intelligences

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regarding that telescope any data would

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they share that with us where the world

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and if not why again you know it's hard

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Chinese and Communist Party but rules

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that country I don't think they would be

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the only way they would release I think

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information would be

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mean to come out anyway which had

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suggested being detected from another

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platform and outside of their control so

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they want to get ahead of the curve or

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they thought that doing no unique

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opportunity and if they thought they

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could get some proprietary information

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from somewhere something so that someone

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else did not have they would not be

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sharing that because it would give them

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they would see an advantage over just

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around the world actually the United

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otama you had mentioned that on the

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McLaughlin group that there will be

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additional forthcoming evidence that

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that we're going to get a chance to see

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and can you discuss that a little bit is

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there a timeframe for that or what

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additional evidence might be might we be

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getting a chance to take a look at well

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phenomena especially as it pertains to

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Newton rights both land at sea Melissa

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continuing point of contact and the

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nuclear power or pretty extensive

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defense of platforms to monitor

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everything that goes more to those

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capabilities and there is well simply

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there is sensor data indicating things

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doing in ways that are beyond the

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ability of an alert nation and as that

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starts to come out more at which the

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information requests through mr.

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Woodleigh classification in certain

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areas and I think I do you think Britain

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will be a rising as a medical and it's

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gonna do I mean just essentially data

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corroborated

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in rare cases but but some by

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individuals operating the data

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collection platform saying you know look

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at this and if again it comes down all

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sherlock holmes liner that if you

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eliminate all the impossible factors

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whatever your left and anagram I think

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that is that is the critical component

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here I also think if you've seen some of

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the customary hosting is documented with

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quite expensive in his book or these

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platforms that you ApS engaging in

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behavior across across the spectrum of

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sort of atmosphere space water then you

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get into a another set of okay well what

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could possibly do that and that is that

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important distinction because as some

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people the couple people saying as today

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in relation to my place or maybe these

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are top secret military platforms United

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do all of these things they might be

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able to do one thing in a limited degree

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and actually with a different capability

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platform than that which is shown but

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they cannot do okay Tom you said in your

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article that you published today I'll

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just go ahead and go straight into a

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quote but the truth is clear if it

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wanted to something strange could defeat

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turning to other first world countries

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if a you ap were to enter their airspace

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and appear as a threat to them by the

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of the UFO Reporting Center has noticed

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there has been an incredibly high uptick

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on UFO reports in the last two years so

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any third world countries turning to

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other first world countries if a you ap

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or you ApS were to enter their airspace

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and appear as a threat to them which

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they believe may have happened before

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already has happened because the United

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Latin America when military-to-military

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relationships between serving military

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officers or intelligence officers are

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of casually enabled in terms of you know

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what they talk to each other about than

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the head of state ship so for example we

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talk about relationships between Mexican

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or Navy officers etc in the relationship

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counterpose between President Trump and

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you know there is incentive and trust to

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be able to engage with American officers

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who might be able to be in a position of

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to provide more information and insight

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so that that is certainly very likely

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states and their relationship their

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continuing relationship with the Russian

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Federation or States as China's

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relationship builds an African state the

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same could be said there so so yes that

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is when you don't know something and you

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know someone to know more and you trust

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them figures that you would go and ask

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them to provide any insight that they

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might be willing to give yeah tamo

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really quick I know where we're pressed

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for time here but it sounds like a lot

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of your sources are coming from

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basically inside the military are you

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hearing anything about increased

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interest in that Congress well we do

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know that I mean in Congress you know

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being quite open about this I mean this

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is a lot of this stuff you consider

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directed better than the open source

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domain in terms of what but Senator Mark

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Warner for example it was quite open

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about having received the briefing and

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he seemed it was a video and actually

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after receiving is something that has

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been taken more theory

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as an example when you engage way in

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which it is handled through the offices

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secretary rias public affairs officials

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reporting guidelines the way the

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military sort of reacts shows that the

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there's some other elements

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compartmentalization region certain

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security control over information region

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and I want one final question for me and

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that is basically the discrepancies that

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we're getting from former insiders who

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are now out working in the private

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sector on this most notably the to the

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stars Academy and statements coming from

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the Pentagon itself from spokespeople

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seem to be at odds that a program the a

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tip program that was running for a while

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was about UFOs the Pentagon spokespeople

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the official spokespeople are saying no

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it wasn't yet the people who were

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directly involved including a Senator

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Harry Reid is saying yeah that's exactly

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what it was how do you account for those

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discrepancies and I think quite simply

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because the military there will be some

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kind of document somewhere that would

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allow others to say or military officers

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or etc to say no important about that

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Eirik Radek word games because you know

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attention to it is uncomfortable and

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military leaders sort of wanted you know

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it pushed away domain in some sense okay

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Tom I have a few questions left and that

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is do you think there and you may have

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already touched on this topic but you

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were breaking up pretty bad and begin

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so we may have missed out on hearing you

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touch on this topic a little bit and

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that is do you think there is anything

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going on behind the scenes as far as the

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Pentagon goes or any other faction of

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the US government or alright first world

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governments for that mother matter

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green-lighting disclosure for future

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revelations on anything related to the

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UFO or UAP topic for the general public

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I'll read those are for future

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revelations on anything related to the

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UAP topic for the general public

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public's consumption of it well I mean

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17 that the information sort of efforts

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there is more than I think constructive

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feedback from the military so I do think

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the process that there are individuals

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are trying to get more stuff out

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disclosure wise then okay and I wanted

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to bring up something that you said in

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your article let's see if I can go ahead

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and okay actually the question I have

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for you is what is your takeaway Tom on

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the entire UAP topic in general what

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have you learned about it as a general

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as a journalist who covers politics

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national security intelligence those

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kinds of things what again is your

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takeaway on the you FAA you ap topic in

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general well that you know well some of

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the sightings that a memoir not a

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phenomena or misidentification of human

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objects mm-hmm machinery that some of

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this stuff truly is not at this world I

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think that is my top-line takeaway and

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then you can get into you know various

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elements intensive

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behavior patterns trend line sometimes

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nuclear connection point what seems to

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be something that you know either

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through whether it be a fuel source or

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concealment is another issue so I mean

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there is a lot but I think that some of

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this stuff's really is not this world

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would be the top okay and then the last

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question I have for you is as a nation

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we have endeavored to build cataclysmic

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weapon systems such as a hydrogen bomb

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for example that can wipe out every

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living thing of the face of our planet

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and we have things like that to secure a

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nation against threats of other possible

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threats from other nations around the

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world do you think the real threat that

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we have is not from other nations but

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from an other worldly type threat such

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as another kind of intelligence that is

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not human do you think that's possible

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well I don't think there's any

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indication that there is an active

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intended intended a deliberate threat or

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at least I haven't seen but I think in

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terms of behavior and the connection

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point especially with the most powerful

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weapons we have with nuclear weapons the

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UAP phenomena today raises the obvious

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prospect of the specific threat and the

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ability of these platforms to protect

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our which I've referenced in the piece

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are you know sort of Lang guard nuclear

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deterrence forces but if something can

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find very easily

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submarines and can deactivate our

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missile forces then that thing had the

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ability to essentially render us

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defenseless at the apex of conflict

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which is to say that the the area where

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we would either be able to or not able

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to defend ourselves against the the

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debilitate are a defensive posture from

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Paulie

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they have the potential of a very

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serious threat is not the threat itself

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because of intent not being shown in

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that regard so the capability wise yes

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okay I just want to mention John

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McLoughlin he was deeply influential

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influential as a journalist from his

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depth expertise and knowledge of the

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topic at hand to the outstanding guests

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he hand-picked for shows and his sharp

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wit and retorts he displayed on his

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iconic program the McLaughlin group

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which you took over and resurrected I

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just want to mention to you he is one of

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the reasons why I actually do the shows

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I do

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he was extremely he made a lasting

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impact on me and his show Stiles has

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influenced countless TV shows and

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millions of people around the planet so

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thank you for having resurrected that

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show and become the moderator of it I'm

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very grateful to you for that and we're

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very grateful and honored to have how do

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you want our show I want to tell

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everybody to please go to Tom Rogan

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thanks calm and also triple w mclaughlin

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calm let me spell that for everybody

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it's MC la ugh l incompetence you have

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anything else to add

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nope well one last question for you Tom

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before I let you go did what was the

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response of some of your co-panelists to

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your prediction about the UFOs Pat

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Buchanan was on the show that day

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eleanor clift Clarence page what was i

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their reaction to it yeah well and you

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know I had a reference again on their

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tasting today and thank you for those

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time words I know Tom John would you

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know thank you kind of Ewan great to be

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well Pat you can I think raised his

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eyebrows

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I think Eleanor thinks I might be crazy

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hahaha somewhere in between so you know

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one of the things that certainly the

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same in journalism when you you write

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about this in the newsroom I was sort of

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a couple of teasing comments today

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although it got a lot of traffic which

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is which is good because people are

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interested

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it shows but but I think there are a lot

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of people there who still do that much

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and you know to see it is the preserve

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of slightly strange people and and so it

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will just it takes time on referencing

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the arguments and the data to try and

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persuade I think you know if you remain

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persistent in your attention to those

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details then with time you can great and

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Tom the only other question I had left

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for you is wanted to know if you

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wouldn't mind considering joining us for

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another show no matter how brief it

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would be in 2020 we would love to have

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the opportunity and privilege of having

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you on our show again well I would love

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that

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thank you very much and again very good

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total to you but yes thanks so much for

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joining us on such short notice Tom

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thanks a lot and we are gonna wrap this

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up quickly and we will be back later

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tonight with a second show in one day

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we're gonna have a paco2 Ricci joining